Cosmic Disclosure: The Deep State of NASA David Wilcock & Corey Goode w/ Emery Smith




Cosmic Disclosure: The Deep State of NASA


David Wilcock & Corey Goode w/ Emery Smith

Cosmic Disclosure: The Deep State of NASA


David Wilcock & Corey Goode w/ Emery Smith


Season 11, Episode 14

August 21, 2018

Broadcast on GAIA


















Cosmic Disclosure: The Deep State of NASA

David Wilcock & Corey Goode w/ Emery Smith

Season 11, Episode 14

August 21, 2018

Broadcast on GAIA



David Wilcock: Welcome back to “Cosmic Disclosure”. I’m your host, David Wilcock. And I’m here with Emery Smith and Corey Goode. And we have quite the power pack of insider information for you in this episode.

Emery, welcome back to the show.

Emery Smith: Thanks, Dave.

David: And Corey, thanks for being here.

Corey Goode: Thank you.

David: So, Emery, one of the weird things that has come up on “Cosmic Disclosure” is this idea that there are two actually major different types of space program. And one of them basically has no idea that the other one exists.


So, Corey, could you set this up for us because I’m really interested to hear what he’s going to say about this.


Corey: Sure. What we’re referring to as the Military-Industrial Complex Secret Space Program, you’re probably going to be very familiar with.

It is the Air Force and the DIA, mainly, that control it. And it comprises of mainly a couple of space stations that are about 50 or more years – a little more years – more advanced than the ISS [International Space Station], about 400 to 500 miles in orbit.

And they’re serviced by these triangular craft that . . . you know, the TR-3B-type craft.

Emery: Yes. I’m familiar.

Corey: And we have a few other manned satellites that are in space . . .

David: Hold on. You said you’re familiar. Could you please explain that?

Emery: Well, while working at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute, we were contracted out as astronauts to go, actually, to these places and run some tests for long-term space travels for human beings.


They were trying . . .


David: Really?

Emery: . . . to find out a way that we could make your body last a lot longer in space before it starts breaking down.

Corey: Where were you going to do this testing? Because there are a few facilities that have Air Force astronauts. It’s a whole other astronomical . . .

Emery: Oh, I understand.

Corey: Yeah.

Emery: Well, like I said, I was working in Florida at the Space Coast Aeromedical Institute when I first developed my platelet-rich plasma stem cell device, and they thought there would be some use for these regenerative properties in space.


And they wanted to see if you could still concentrate these cells in space, and if they would still be viable to give to the astronauts for long-term space exploration.

David: Now, we’re all kind of space nerds here, but in case somebody isn’t, could you just explain in a very simple way what happens to the humans, whether they’re Russians or Americans, in conventional NASA-type missions?

Emery: Sure. I mean, well, the body, number one, you have to eat, and you have to stay healthy, and you have to exercise every day. And you’ve got to keep it in full motion and movement.


Just like anyone here, if you sit in bed all day and you don’t do anything and become obese, you know, you’re going to set yourself up with heart risk factors and all sorts of problems in your body with disease.


So by doing the basic things of keeping your body healthy in space, that’s just keeping you at homeostasis.


But what they want to do is: “Well, we want to keep you at homeostasis, but we also want to do that for long periods.”


They can only keep homeostasis for a short period of time in space, you know, up to a year, like, the maximum.

Corey: Right. The bones . . .

Emery: Everything starts to degenerate. You know, you lose 20% of your bone structure. And it also taxes your neurosystem . . .

David: Are you talking about, like . . .

Emery: . . . tremendously.

David:  . . . osteodensity of the bone?

Emery: Yes, the density. That’s right, the density.


And so there’s all these factors going on up there, and it’s been kind of a big problem for NASA, number one, which is the public NASA.


And this is the one that got funding for us to go do this project we were contracted out to do.


So that is, you know, . . . Now, there’s two NASAs, in my experience – so I’m not sure . . . you know, you can probably enlighten me some more – that’s separate from everything else, you know, the secret one, and then there’s the regular one.


And then, of course, there’s the Air Force and whatnot.

David: Well, could you describe the secret one, because I haven’t heard about this, per se?

Emery: Well, you’re talking . . . the secret NASA?

David: Secret NASA, yeah.

Emery: Well, NASA has . . .

David: What do you know about it?

Emery: There’s two sections to NASA. One is what the public sees, and there’s another underground Cabal-type one that does really mediocre stuff as far as getting things to space for these other classified places.


So their mission, honestly, is more on a supply-type thing for them, because they’re kind of, like, the lower echelon compared to these other ones that Corey is talking about.


But they still contract them out to do things. And everything is secret.


And they also send many different types of satellites up that are classified.


Of course, right now, with the new advent of Elon Musk and his corporation, he’s actually doing a lot of this, sending these types of classified satellites up – that are used for negative purposes – into space. Not to say that they’re aware of that, because they just make the rockets.


You know, these satellites come already in a capsule, and they put it all together and shoot it up. But they are contracted out to do that because they’re very successful, more successful than, actually, NASA at . . .

David: Corey, have you . . .

Emery: . . . making rockets.

David: Have you heard about this secret NASA?

Corey: Well, yes. This . . . It is actually the same part that I was talking about of the secret astronaut corps that is . . . They’re almost all Air Force.

Emery: Yes.

Corey: And I’m trying to remember the name of the base up in the Northwest that they do a lot of their training at . . . not Northwest. It’s close to one of the Great Lakes.


There’s a base where they train these people to fly this advanced technology.

Emery: Right.

David: Okay. Well, we have a viewer question now:


“Corey’s Mega-Update mentioned seeing a NASA-badge-wearing person at the deeper part of the LOC.”


A NASA badge!


“What are the implications of this? And is NASA’s presence on the LOC a new thing?”


And this, I guess, Corey, that’s more of your question, . . .

Corey: Right.

David: . . . because . . .

Corey: Previously, at the LOC Alpha, which is the one that I’ve described most often, I had never seen any type of NASA insignia.


Now, at the LOC Bravo, which is underneath the surface, below this giant lava tube network, it . . . when I went there before I was given a five-hour tour of the rest of the complexes on the Moon that we have, some of them very ancient, I was in a more scientific area where they . . . everyone was preparing to go on further expeditions down in, you know, putting on equipment and all of that.


And there were some NASA personnel there, a person in an orange jumpsuit with a NASA insignia. And there was a person standing by that had like a blue windbreaker on that had a NASA insignia.

David: So what are the implications of this? And is NASA’s presence on the Yellow Sea a new thing?

Corey: Well, the Moon bases are segmented in a way to where different space programs have access.


The military-industrial complex does a lot of work there.

David: Right.

Corey: And what we had described earlier about a secret NASA faction that is made up of the Air Force that he described and that I can confirm, those are the people that I was most likely seeing on . . . at the LOC.

Emery: Most likely, yeah.

David: So either one of you guys jump on this: It’s a strange thing that seems related that every now and then we just get this little blurb in the media – this has been going on for years now – about this X-37B.


It looks like the Space Shuttle, kind of, same kind of thing, like the re-entry vehicle part.


And then they just say, “Yeah, it’s been up there for 648 days with astronauts inside.”, but then they don’t tell you who the astronauts are. They say it’s a secret mission.




And then they land it. And then every now and then, you just hear another one. And they say it’s been up there for about a year, maybe two years at the most.

Corey: Well, these are unmanned.

David: Supposedly.

Corey: Right.

Emery: I think they’re unmanned. I didn’t know there were people in those.

David: Oh! Okay.

Corey: Yeah, these are remote-controlled vehicles.

David: It seemed I saw some of these articles implying that it was not unmanned, that there were people in it.

Corey: It has a capability, but from what I’ve seen, it’s a very small cabin.


Usually it carries payloads. And the payload can be . . . and it’s not something that you eject into space, so it can be attached.


Like, the doors can open. And it can position itself to work, to have arms come out and work on satellites, repair satellites.


They can fit it, retrofit it, to do many different tasks, I’m told.

David: I just find it really surprising that people aren’t asking more questions in general, given the fact that we’re told every year or so that there’s been a secret space mission that just landed after a year.

Emery: David, does it make it to mainstream media?

David: Yeah, absolutely.

Emery: Like, so CNN is actually talking about it?

David: X-37B.

Emery: No, I know.

Corey: Well, they’ll mainly talk about the take off and the landing.

Emery: Oh, okay. All right.

David: But then it’s like: well, what’s up there that they’re working on? And why would they want to be up there for a year? What would be the requirement to have this mission be in space for a whole year if there was nothing there to work on?

Corey: Well, a lot of types of experiments that the astronauts do can be automated as well. So they can send up, you know, advanced experiments as well.

Emery: Oh, absolutely. There’s craft now like this one and even space stations that are unmanned, like you were talking about, and smaller ones.


And just like in surgery . . . We have these big da Vinci robots that go in and do the whole surgery, but the surgeons over there operating it . . .

Corey: Or in a different country.

Emery: Or in another country.

Corey: Right.

Emery: So up there, they can do the similar, very similar thing. Like you were talking about fixing satellites. Cleaning up space debris that is in the way of a satellite that’s very expensive has been done. [They’ve done] missions just to go up there to change the trajectory, and they couldn’t do anything about it, and they’re going to lose a billion-dollar satellite.


So, you know, they’ll go up there and clean up that little area with the elliptical . . . you know, how all the space trash is going around. I’ve heard of that too.


But, you know, there are also, getting back to the Air Force and NASA too, definitely, they’re all working together.


And I totally support that 100% because they are all Air Force astronauts that run these missions. And they’re all trained separately.

David: You said something provocative, which is: you said that YOU were one of these astronauts.

Emery: I was scheduled to go up in one of the shuttles, yes. And luckily I didn’t because the one that got blown up over Texas was my return flight. So that was back . . .

David: Oh, you’re actually saying the regular Space Shuttle?

Emery: Yeah, the regular Space Shuttle.

David: You were going to be a conventional astronaut.

Emery: Yeah, for that one.

David: Wow.

Corey: When I was in the Texas State Guard, my unit ended up helping clean up a lot of that explosion.

Emery: Right. Yeah, and that was definitely a hit on all those people. That was not just an explosion. Those are all targeted for . . . And the reason I know this . . .

Corey: Did they see something they weren’t supposed to, or . . .

Emery: Huh?

Corey: I mean, why would they target a shuttle? Did they see something they weren’t supposed to?

Emery: Yeah, those people on there . . . I don’t know the background, but they all had something on them that, you know, . . . or the majority of them in there had something that they needed to make sure would never . . . was spoken of ever again.


And I was supposed to be on that return flight, but my flight got bumped because of the budget cuts by the president at that time  . . . bumped my flight actually about two years.


And after that blew up, they canceled the whole shuttle program.

Corey: Right.

Emery: I didn’t get to go up, so I was very upset with that one. But I still did work for the other NASA and did some other things.

David: Do you think that some of the conventional shuttle astronauts that we saw were aware of classified things as well?

Corey: Hm.

Emery: They could be. Most of the astronauts, as you know, especially the ones that go to space, are under a huge NDA [non-disclosure agreement], as you know . . .

Corey: And most are Masons, as well.

Emery: . . . with a bullet . . .with a name on their bullet if they were to say something.


You know, I’ve met with a lot of the old astronauts’ families and themselves before passing away. And, you know, they all did say, you know, that this is true, the Moon is inhabited, there’s many, many vehicles there, there’s extraterrestrials there.


And this is all public information. You can find out online. This is nothing really new.


111And people grasp this, but no one questions it. So it’s kind of the largest story in the world: is this extraterrestrials, and no one wants to, like, really get into it and talk about it.

David: So Corey has brought to the table information that corroborated something I heard from another insider, and that is this idea that you have a level of the Secret Space Program that doesn’t believe extraterrestrials exist and doesn’t believe that we can leave the Solar System.


So, Corey, could you explain that a little more? And then we’ll see what Emery has to say.

Corey: Sure. Most of them believe that extraterrestrials exist, but they believe that the only ETs that have visited us have done so in the ancient past.


And every once in a while, an interloper may come into our Solar System, but other than that, there is not a whole lot of extraterrestrial traffic, which is amazing, because they are in a perfect position to spot this extraterrestrial traffic.

Emery: I can’t see how that’s possible, them being up there not seeing.

Corey: Right. Well, a lot of them, they will see Secret Space Program craft from the Navy program that are far more advanced. And the pilots will be like: “What did we just see? What is this?”


And they’re ordered: “Do not talk about it. What you saw was a concept craft. You’ll probably be flying one in five or 10 years.”

Emery: Oh! Okay. So they’re brainwashing them.

Corey: Right. And also, you know how they positioned . . . satellites are positioned in a certain orbit. They know where every asset is at all times.


Even before astronomers task a satellite, they know what’s going to be in that region and what could possibly be seen. And then they change the position of assets.

Emery: Ah! I see.

Corey: So it’s like a big shell game going on up there.

Emery: Uh huh.

Corey: So . . . But you might have a space station here and doing an equatorial-type orbit, but some crazy stuff going on down in Antarctica that, you know, they won’t be able to really see.

Emery: Right.

Corey: They can . . . Depending on where they are in the orbit, they can have activity occur.

Emery: Hm. And who . . . Why would this organization not tell their astronauts about the ETs? And why do they not . . .You know, what’s the . . . What is the benefit of that? How does that serve that . . .

Corey: It’s compartmentalizing ideas. So if these people start coming forward, and they’re disclosing this technology . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . or some of the technology, they can say it was human derived, . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . or, you know.

Emery: That makes sense. I mean, they did a lot of that stuff to us, trying to say this is this and this is that, even though we knew it wasn’t. We just know to keep our mouths shut.

Corey: Right.

Emery: But yeah, that’s a common tactic for that. But space programs are hard. And they’re growing so large right now that there’s just many of these craft up there with humans in them.


And hiding them – the extraterrestrials up there – would be very difficult, I would say, but can be done.


Corey: Well, what’s interesting is this Military-Industrial Complex Program had been a major tool of the Cabal for a long time. But now, that’s kind of been wrestled away from them as we’ve, the DoD types, have, you know, come back more towards the direction of the Alliance.


So it’s more of an Alliance representation in this program now, although there are . . . it is split a little bit.


Recently, they interact . . . I guess, intervened, in something that occurred here on the planet.

Emery: Oh, yeah. You told me about this, I think.

Corey: Yeah. Most people don’t know that the CIA has a secret fleet that, strangely enough, they call the “Dark Fleet”.


And it’s comprised of a nuclear submarine, a nuclear aircraft carrier, some prison ships, hospital ships, just on a . . . destroyers – an entire fleet.

Emery: Hm!

Corey: And it’s kind of a rogue fleet.


And recently, I was told that, in a briefing – we haven’t fully confirmed all the details yet, but these were retired general and colonel types speculating – that the nuclear sub had gone into a shallow area close to North Korea and had fired an ICBM at Honolulu.


And, of course, we all remember the – it was all over the news . . .

David: Oh, yeah.


Corey: . . . – the fake missile alert.

Emery: Right.

Corey: But if you look deeper in the news, you see some interesting UFOs reported close to Hawaii during that time period – weird corona in the sky.



And also, someone reported an explosion in the sky, possibly a meteor. Well . . .

Emery: Right. I remember all of this.

Corey: Yes.

Emery: Seen all over; even Russia saw it.

Corey: Yeah. So what I’m told that they believe happened was that this rogue submarine fired a missile. The Secret Space . . . The MIC Secret Space Program, took it out and intervened.


And that’s what the explosion was that they heard over the ocean.

Emery: Wow!

David: So that implies that the MIC group is at war with the group that would be controlling the CIA?

Corey: Yes, but parts of the MIC group are struggling with each other as well.

Emery: Yeah, that’s really good news to hear, that the MIC did that, because if not, the extraterrestrials probably would have done it, because they’re not going to let any type of nuclear bomb go off if it destroys more than half the planet.

Corey: Well, it also causes an energetic feedback through this Cosmic Web and affects countless other civilizations, . . .

Emery: Exactly.

Corey: . . . especially if they’re in transit through the Cosmic Web. We can destroy ships . . .


David: Wow!


Emery: Yes.


Corey: . . . or an entire fleet if a nuclear bomb goes off at the wrong time. They go through regions and they know the activity of all the suns, stars in the area, because of their pulses . . .

Emery: Flashes – solar flashes.

Corey:  and flashes, and it feedbacks . . .

Emery: It affects everybody.

Corey: . . . into the . . .

Emery: I’m glad you said that. Not many people understand that concept and how it affects . . . Everything we do here affects another part of the universe – many parts, actually. So I’m glad you brought that up.

Corey: Apparently, a few days later, the same submarine tried to fire another missile at Tokyo, which was, again, taken out by the same program.

David: What did they do with the submarine?

Corey: The submarine, I’ve heard . . . I haven’t heard any details about what happened, if they engaged the submarine and took it out. I haven’t heard any of the details.

David: It would seem likely to me.

Corey: It would be likely.

Emery: Yes.

Corey: But I’m waiting for a full briefing to see how correct these details are, because they were coming from people that were . . . that had inside knowledge, but not the full picture.

David: Corey, why do you think the Cabal would have tried to fire missiles at Honolulu and Tokyo right now?

Corey: Well, you know, false flags . . . Right now we have to keep an eye out for false flags because this Cabal group, this global Cabal group made up of people from all religions, all political ideologies – you know, it’s everybody; there’s a little piece of EVERY group involved with this – is finally being exposed.


And they need to have a grand distraction. And it looks like they were leaning towards a starting a World War III to have a distraction instead of showing us some of the things that are hidden down in Antarctica and under the ocean.

Emery: It also sounds like, to me . . . I’m catching that this could also be a test of the response time for . . . You know, we do this a lot. You know, shoot missiles and see how fast they . . . They know they’re going to get taken out. They want to see what the response time is . . .

Corey: Right.

Emery: . . . so they can strategically position our self in different areas, and also maybe man space with something to counteract that threat.

Corey: A little probing.

Emery: Yeah, so it could also be something like that as well that they’re testing.

Corey: That’s always a component.

David: Emery, I want to jump back just for a second to something you said that was provocative. And that was that you mentioned the secret NASA is using triangles. And they have bases in . . . somewhere outside the Earth, or in Earth orbit, I guess.


So could you please just explain what you know about that a little more now?

Emery: Well, there is a flight of them at MacDill Air Force Base there in Tampa, Florida.

Corey: Oh, yes. As a matter of fact, Dr. [Michael] Salla, of, has recently written several articles. [See “Was Hurricane Irma Steered by Maser Satellites in Weather War against the USA?”]

Emery: Ah!

Corey: Before the last hurricane – I can’t remember the name of it [Hurricane Irma, September 11, 2017] – hit Florida, people were photographing them evacuating these craft from MacDill.


And there are two or three different types of these triangles, I’m told, that are stationed there. A full wing is stationed there at MacDill.

Emery: Absolutely. We’ve done a lot of CE-5s about an hour south of . . . half hour south of there. And, you know, they’re not hiding.


I mean, these pilots are going out over the Gulf of Mexico and doing some amazing acrobatic things, and . . . just for fun. And they’re not hiding is what I’m getting at.


We’ve got these guys on film, got them on pictures, and whatnot, witnessed by 30, 50 people during a CE-5 on the beach there. And it’s quite the spectacle.


And . . . But you can sense too that it’s not extraterrestrial. It always has that kind of energy of man-made alien reproduction vehicles – ARVs, we call them.

Corey: Yeah, 90% of what we see is man-made.

Emery: Exactly. Great number – 90%. That’s very true.

David: Well, you were starting to go into the secret NASA. So you mentioned triangles, MacDill. That’s an amazing correlation that you both know that same base.


Could you tell us a little more about the orbital platforms, for example?

Emery: Well, there’s space stations up there, like Corey said. And they’re much grander than what we . . . that you guys know about with the International Space Station.


They’re highly upgraded. They’re about anywhere from – from the pictures I’ve seen; I haven’t been to one of these, by the way – they’re about 10 times bigger than the ISS.


And they’re not right here in our atmosphere, like we see our satellites and stuff. They are farther out, what we call “exoatmosphere”, you know, beyond the Earth, but still in a . . . They can be in an elliptical orbit. Or they could be at standstill somewhere.


And many things go on at these space stations, such as testing for other planets they’re searching for.


They sometimes . . .

David: Like Earth-like planets, you mean?

Emery: Yes, like Earth-like planets.


They also have special radars on there that can see into planets.


And they have things that could actually . . . They know where all the craft are in, like, our Solar System.


And they also map all the different wormholes and these other platforms out there for jumping around in space.


So they know where the portals are. They know which planets have portals.


They’ve been investigating with very high-tech equipment on there.


They can look through the clouds of all the gaseous planets and see what’s really there.


And they send a lot of probes out to these areas to send them through and to see if they come back so they can get the data.

Corey: So you saw a picture or a photograph of one?

Emery: Hmm. [Sound for “yes”.]

Corey: Okay. I’ve described one in the past. And it was a space station that was created out of NASA ship hulls, or out of the rocket boosters, that they had repurposed, that had ejected from other rocket launches into space.


They repurposed them, put them end-to-end into, like a big circle . . .

Emery: Right.

Corey: . . . that were like a spoke radiating from

Emery: I told you this . . .

Corey: . . . the middle.

Emery: . . . before.

Corey: And it spun slowly to create one-third gravity.

Emery: Right. And that’s that . . . This is the one. I actually told you [Emery is speaking to David] about this a while ago.

David: Yes, you did.

Emery: So to hear him say it, it’s very . . . It’s enlightening to that . . .

Corey: Right. And the images I saw were . . . the spoke in the middle had an area that went down, and everything else was, like, turning, but the middle was fairly positioned where it wasn’t moving around.

Emery: Right.

Corey: And that’s where the TR-3Bs would connect . . . was at a port here, here at the top. And they would come through, and then they would go out through the spokes and go to the sections of the station that were created out of these reclaimed . . .

Emery: Right, reclaimed . . .

Corey: . . . reclaimed parts.

Emery: Even NASA recycles.

Corey: Yes.

Emery: Isn’t that nice?

David: And you said this is an Air Force program?

Emery: Yes, right. It’s the Air Force.

Corey: DIA. [Defense Intelligence Agency]

Emery: Yeah. So I mean, it’s kind of well-known for the people that are in those projects. They don’t keep it THAT secret.

Corey: It’s well-known, yeah, among the projects, those projects.

David: Now, obviously, the programs that you were involved with, you were aware of extraterrestrials being in and around the Earth.

Emery: Yes.

David: Do you think it’s possible that they could have employees on those space platforms that wouldn’t have been informed about extraterrestrials or think that it was only ancient, for example?

Emery: No, I don’t see how that’s possible. No. I can’t see an astronaut being on that station being convinced there’s no other life out there, because it’s such a hot zone out there.


In space, it’s like Grand Central Station for . . . you know. It’s just . . . It’s a really busy place.


And you’d have to just have no windows and not be looking out at all for you not to see some anomaly or for you to actually see an extraterrestrial craft right outside you investigating you.


You know, there’s many weapons in space to counteract this, including special wave patterns that do not allow craft to come near or it will disintegrate that type of craft.


They also have all these neutrino light detectors on the satellites up there, which show the travel of these craft in different wavelengths so they can pinpoint them and see who they are.

Corey: Well, and the fact, . . . How the lunar operation command tracks craft coming in is that any type of free-energy-type . . .

Emery: Yeah.

Corey: . . . device puts off a certain frequency . . .

Emery: That’s right.

Corey: . . . that you just, you cannot hide. You cannot shield it.


That’s why that so many of these people, free energy workers, they’ll be in the middle of the jungle, underground. And the minute . . .

Emery: Doesn’t matter.

Corey: . . . they turn it on, helicopters are all around.

Emery: I can attest to that myself.

Corey: I bet you can.

Emery: And you know this very well. And I don’t mind coming clean with that one.

Corey: But that’s one of the methods, main methods, they use for tracking friends and foes coming in.

Emery: Yes. You can’t hide that energy, ha, ha. So that’s a difficult one.

David: Well, you were working on a device, and very soon after it started to work successfully is when you had that car crash.

Emery: Right. Right. Well, in Florida, you know, we took a device to a Walmart shopping center. And we had some scientists and some “interested people”, VIPs, that, you know, wanted to make sure it worked.


So in the rental van, we pulled up to Walmart after hours. And when the lights all went off in the parking lot, we just pulled it out, laid it on the ground.


I told everyone to shut off all their cell phones and put it [them] around the device.


And we turned it on, and all the cell phones turned on, and all the lights in the parking lot went on.


“See you. Bye bye.”


That lasted, like, less than 45 seconds. It was in the van and going again.


And that Walmart parking lot was really busy for the next 24 hours. [LAUGHTER] And it wasn’t for shopping.

David: Emery, do you think, based on your contact with these people in this program, did they want . . . were they happy about the secrecy? Or did some of them want the truth to be known to the public?

Emery: That’s the big thing. People want the truth now that are in these projects. They don’t feel safe. Things are happening. Things are changing.


They’re not going to do anything. They’re not going to become a whistleblower or anything, I don’t believe. The retired ones all want to come forward.


But the ones that are on the projects, these people need a job. They’re just a little fearful. They all have a little bit of fear.


And they do that on purpose. They give you a little fear factor when you work on these projects to make  sure you don’t go astray.


But the thing is, their heart’s in the right place. And as long as their hearts are in the right place, something good is going to come out of it.


Even if you’re doing something you really don’t want to be doing, you know, there’s a reason why you’re there.


So what I’m telling THOSE people is: “Be patient and keep thinking that way, because pretty soon, you’re going to be free. And you’re going to be doing a very similar project and working the same job, but you won’t have those eyes and all those people looking over your shoulder all the time.”

David: Well, that is some amazing stuff. And Emery, it’s just awesome to have you here. And thank you for risking your life to be a part of this.

Emery: Oh, you’re welcome. Thanks for having me, Dave.

David: This is “Cosmic Disclosure”. And we thank you for watching.



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